Scroll, Click, Connect

Do you ever look at other trees on Ancestry? I know I do. I use them for hints. I also attach them as ‘sources’ so that I can get back to trees that match my ancestors.

However, I try not to add ‘new people’ from those trees to my tree. I also try to add additional sources to support the information in my tree. Some of those sources are obtained thru Ancestry and the hinting system.

However, some of my sources come from outside of Ancestry. Thus, when you search Ancestry’s Public Member Trees for someone in my tree, the number of sources attached to the individual will be shown.

When you go to the individual in the tree, the Ancestry sources will be shown first.

Only by scrolling down the page, will one find those ‘other sources’

Not only should one ‘SCROLL’ to find those ‘OTHER SOURCES’, one should also ‘CLICK’ on those sources.

Clicking, reveals the information from the source. When viewing the citation, please remember that the transcript on Ancestry does not have the paragraph returns and blank lines that were in the original transcription.

If you find these other sources and transcriptions helpful, be sure to use the MESSAGE button to connect with the tree owner. By working together, we can uncover more information about the people in our trees.

So —

• Use Public Member Trees, 
• Scroll thru and study the Sources, 
• Click to View transcriptions and 
• Message the tree owner to begin collaboration

Bad Citations

Do you have older source citations in your tree that your high school English teacher would yell at you about? Do you have source citations in your tree that even you can’t use to locate the information?

I don’t know about you, but I have such sources in my tree. As I’m reviewing my Crawford research, I’m finding those source citations.

Most of these HORRIBLE citations came from my early days of research when citation standards were just being developed. 

If I look at one of those ’email message’ citations, I find it attached to a residence fact.

If I go back to my genealogy file from The Master Genealogist and look at the event, I find that, although incomplete, I had a source that was NOT based on an email message.

My only explanation is that the source was somehow corrupted in the transfer to RootsMagic.

Unfortunately, I’ve deleted those ‘bad’ sources from events in the  James Crawford (1758-1836) timeline on RootsMagic. Thankfully, I haven’t deleted those bad sources from everyone in my database. I can use the RootsMagic and the event to which it is attached to find my way back to the same source in The Master Genealogist.

Roots Magic Source

Same Source in The Master Genealogist

Since those sources were in my Roots Magic database when I used TreeShare to upload my data to Ancestry, those BAD sources are in my Heartland Genealogy tree on Ancestry.

Unfortunately, at this time, I don’t know how to find all of those sources. Basically, I need a report in RootsMagic that will print all sources using a specific source template and the person and event to which that source is attached.

I’ve learned my lesson! My poorly cited data hinders my own research as well as keeping others from following my line of thinking.

Wish me luck as I try to clean up this mess!

1815 Guthrie Patent

189 141

Examined & Sent May 22d 1815

James Madison, President of the United States of America
To all to whom these presents shall come, Greeting:

Know Ye, that William B Guthrie of Clark County Ind. Territory

having deposited in the General Land-office a certificate of the register of the Land-office
at Jeffersonville whereby it appears that full payment has been made for

the South West quarter of Section Twenty One of township Four North of
the Base line in Range Ten East of the Second principal Meridian

of the lands directed to be sold at Jeffersonville
by the act of Congress, entitled “An act providing for the sale of the lands of the United
States in the territory north-west of the Ohio, and above the mouth of Kentucky river,” and
of the acts amendatory of the same: There is granted, by the United States, unto
the said William B Guthrie the quarter lot or
section of land above described: To have and to hold the said quarter
lot or section of land, with the appurtenances, unto the said William B Guthrie
his heirs and assigns forever

In Testimony whereof, I have caused these letters to be made
Patent, and the seal of the General Land-office to be hereunto affixed
Given under my hand at the City of Washington, the thirteenth
day of May in the year of our Lord one thousand
eight hundred and fifteen and of the Independence
of the United States of America, the thirty-ninth

By the President, James Madison
Josiah Meigs, Commissioner of the General Land-Office

Eliza Part 2

As discussed in my recent post, Duplicate or Different, I followed up on a ‘notice of change’ message to discover two Eliza Van Valkenbergs on Family Search. By looking at the differences between the two women, I discovered some clues that led to more information in Eliza.

One of those clues was the differing death dates for Eliza. In one case, the death date was given as between 1920 and 1930. I’m sure this was due to not finding Eliza in records.

The other Eliza had a death date of 1943 listed. Knowing that Eliza had been married several times, I suspected that a different surname was contributing to the difficulty in finding records. When I searched Newspapers.com for the term Eliza in 1943 in St. Joseph, Missouri, I found a notice of her death.

Since Eliza died in Missouri, I then checked for a Missouri death certificate.

Both of these documents contain clues that connect Honora Eliza Schleininger to Eliza Huntchinson Phay. First is her maiden name: Van Valkenburg. The marriage record for Eliza and Albert Hutchinson gives Eliza’s name as Eliza Van Valkenberg.

Albert Hutchinson’s entry on the 1895 census in Doniphan County, Kansas includes an Eliza Hutchinson along with a Howard Nolan and a Peter Nolan. One of the affidavit’s by Eliza Phay in the pension application file for Elmer Hutchinson states that Eliza was married to Henry Nouland prior to her marriage to Albert Hutchinson.

Thus, when the obituary identifies Peter Nolan as the son of Eliza Schleininger, it provides another clue connecting Eliza Schleininger to the Eliza that married Albert Hutchinson.

The other clue obtained from FamilySearch was not only the year of death (1927) for Elmer Elsworth Hutchinson but also the comment in the change log that his cousins caused his death. Those two pieces of information led me to Newspapers.com. I wasn’t able to find anything in 1927 but I did find information regarding his death, including the funeral notice in the 30 Aug 1926 issue of the St. Joseph Gazette.

Based on the information found in these records, I concluded that these ‘duplicate’ people were actually the same individuals. Thus, I added sources and then merged the duplicates.

I’m thankful for the nudge to do further research and the hints found on FamilySearch. I hope that others who follow Eliza Van Valkenberg and Elmer Hutchinson will find this work useful.

Duplicate or Different

Do you ever check out someone else’s tree to see if they have something that disagrees with what you have? I know I’m usually looking for confirmation, but I appreciate seeing conflicting information. That conflicting information makes me re-look at what I have and to look harder for additional sources to support what I have.

That’s likely one of the reasons I work with the tree on FamilySearch. On this tree, I can look at the changes made to an individual. If those changes differ from information I have compiled, I can message the user making the changes and/or post a discussion about the change.

Thus, I utilize the ‘watch’ button to mark individuals I’m researching. Not only have I marked my ancestors to ‘watch’ but I’ve also marked other individuals in my research that I’m having trouble finding sources. Each week, I get notified of changes to those ‘watched’ individuals.

This morning’s notification list included Eliza Honor Van Valkenburg, the second wife of my ancestor, Albert J Hutchinson. That’s when I discovered that there are TWO of them in the Family Search tree.

Since I haven’t found birth or death information for her, I have no idea which  Honor Van Valkenburg is the correct one. However, I do believe that these are the same women and that they are the same person I have in my database as Eliza Honor Van Valkenberg.

Unfortunately, Eliza (or Honor Eliza) may have been married multiple times. Thus, it becomes difficult to locate information for her since her name changes constantly.

Eliza Phay applied for a pension for her minor son, Elmer E. Hutchinson, based on the service of Albert Hutchinson. This file contains information that helps in identifying some of these marriages. In an affidavit by Eliza Phay dated July, 17, 1913, Eliza Phay states she was married to Henry Nouland prior to her marriage to Albert Hutchinson.

Honor L Vanvolkenberg was married to Henry H Nolen on 25 March 1885 in Doniphan County, Kansas.

In 1893, Miss Eliza Valkenburgh married Albert Hutchinson. The marriage took place August 8, 1893 in Buchanan County, Missouri.

The 1895 Kansas census for Doniphan County shows the family of Albert Hutchinson. Listed in the household are Eliza Hutchison, Howard Noland and Peter Noland.

In 1898, Mrs. Honor E Hutchens married Samuel King in Buchanan County, Missouri.

On 7 August 1900, Mrs. Eliza Nolan was married to John McColgin.

On 23 May 1906, Mrs Eliza McColgin married Osceola Phay.

In 1910, Eliza Phay was listed in the household of Osceola Phay on the census for Buchanan County, Missouri. Also listed in the household was 13 year old Elmer Hutchinson along with Howard Nolan and Peter Nolan.

The family of Osceola Phay and Eliza, his wife is found on the 1920 census living in St. Joseph, Buchanan County, Missouri. Also listed in the household was a son, —– Elmer. 

In the fall of 1923, Oceola Phay petitioned for divorce from his wife,  Eliza. According to the 6 Oct 1923 issue of the St. Joseph Gazette (St. Joseph, Missouri), the divorce was granted by Judge Utz.

The divorce of Oceola and Eliza would explain why records for Eliza are difficult to find after 1923. Since no one has shared a source for her death, it is difficult to determine when she died and thus difficult to determine which Eliza Van Valkenberg is the correct one.

Pioneer Women Jefferson County Indiana

Anderson, Rebecca, d/o John Anderson, native of NY and Anne Irvine, was born at Augusta Parish, VA , m. 1st R. John Maxwell, 2nd James Crawford, located in Jeff. Co. IN prior to 1830

Crawford, Mary (Polly) d/o James and Rebecca Anderson Crawford, b. in Garrard Co. KY May 28, 1786, m. William Brown Guthrie, Apr. 6, 1809; came to Jeff. Co. soon after marriage; had 11 children. She d. July 18, 1834 and she and her husband are buried at Hanover. Her husband was called to fight Indians in 1812 and she walked 12 miles carrying her baby, Anderson Crawford Guthrie, who was born Apr. 22, 1811 and her companion, a boy age 12, carried an older child, James Guthrie. They walked to the block house near the Francisco farm. Her ancestors served in the Rev. War.

Crawford, Betsey, d/o James & Rebecca A. Crawford, b. in 1792, m. in Mar, 1812 to Beverly Vawter of Woodford Co. KY, a minister of the Christian Ch.

Source:
Melish Mrs. Charles, Pioneer Women (www.jeffersoncountylocalhistory.org/fampioneerwomen : viewed online May 2019), Crawford.

1824 Patent 1153

Bureau of Land Management
Patent No 1153

The United States of America
To all to whome these presents shall come, Greeting

Whereas William B Guthrie of Jefferson County, Indiana
has deposited in the General Land Office of the United States, a certificate of the Register of the Land Office at Terre Haute State of Indiana
whereby it appears that full payment has been made by the said William B Guthrie
according to the provisions of the Act of Congress of the 24th of April, 1820, entitle “An act making further provision for the sale of the Public Lands,” for

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The West fraction of the South West quarter of section thirty one in Township nineteen, north of Range
three west in the District of Terre Haute and State of Indiana, containing eighty one acres
and forty two hundredth of an acre
according to the official plat of the survey of the said Lands, returned to the General Land Office by the Surveyor General, which said tract has been pur
chased by the said William B Guthrie

Now Know ye, that the United States of America, in consideration of the premises, and in conformity with the several
acts of Congress, in such case made and provided, have Given and Granted, and by these presents do give and grant, unto the said William B. Guthrie
and to his heirs the said tract above described: To have and to hold the same, together with all the rights, privileges, immunities, and appur
tenances, of whatsoever nature, thereto belonging, unto the said William B Guthrie
and his heirs and assigns forever.

In testimony whereof, I James Monroe
President of the United States of America, have caused these letters to be made Patent, and the seal of the General Land office to be hereunto
affixed.

Given under my hand, at the city of Washington, the twentieth day of February, in the year of our
Lord, one thousand eight hundred and twenty four, and of the Independence of the United States the
forty eighth.
By the President, JCM
Gre Graham, Commissioner of the General Land Office

1824 Patent 1152

142
Certificate No. 1152 Exc

The United States of America

To all to whom these presents shall come, Greeting:

Whereas William B. Guthrie of Jefferson County, Indiana
has deposited in the General Land office of the United States, a certificate of the Register of the Land Office at Terre Haute, State of Indiana
whereby it appears that full payment has been made by the said William B Guthrie
according to the provisions of the Act of Congress of the 24th of April, 1820, entitled “An act making further provision for the sale of the Public Lands,” for
The East fraction of the South West quarter of section thirty one in Township nineteen North of Range
three West in the District of Terre Haute and State of Indiana containing eighty acres.

according to the official plat of the survey of the said Lands, returned to the General Land Office by the Surveyor General, which said tract has been pur
chased by the said William B. Guthrie
Now Know ye, that the United States of America in consideration of the premises, and in conformity with the several
acts of Congress, in which case made and provided, have Given and Granted, and, by these presents do give and grant, unto the said William B Guthrie
and his heirs the said tract above described: To have and to hold the same, together with all the rights, privileges immenities and appur
tenances, of whatsoever nature, thereto belonging, unto the said William B Guthrie
and his heirs and assigns forever.

In testimony whereof, I, James Monroe
President of the United States of America, have caused these letters to be made Patent, and the seal of teh General Land Office to be hereunto
affixed.

Given under my hand, at the City of Washington, the twentieth day of February in the year of our
Lord, one thousand eight hundred and twenty four, and of the Independence of the United States the
forty eighth.

Source:
United States Bureau of Land Management, “General Land Office Records,” database with images, BLM.Gov (http://glorecords.blm.gov : viewed online July 2019), William B Guthrie, document 1152.

1838 Patent

Bureau of Land Management
Land Patent

207
The United States of America
Certificate
No. 13245

To all to whom these presents shall come, Greeting:
Whereas William Brown Guthrie of Jefferson County, Indiana

has deposited in the General Land Office of the United States, a Certificate of the Register of the Land
Office at Jeffersonville whereby it appears that full payment has been made by the said

William Brown Guthrie according to the provisions of
the Act of Congress of the 24th of April, 1820, entitled “An act making further provision for the sale of the Public Lands,” for
the East half of the South West quarter of Section twenty-eight in
Township three North of Range nine, East in the District
of Lands subject to sale at Jeffersonville, Indiana contain
ing eighty acres

according to the official plat of the survey of the said Lands, returned to the General Land Office by the Surveyor
General, which said tract has been purchased by the said William Brown Guthrie

Now know ye, that the
United States of America, in consideration of the Premises, and in conformity with the several acts of Congress, in
such case made and provided, Have Given and Granted, and by these presents Do Give and Grant, unto
the said William Brown Guthrie

and to his heirs, the said tract above described: to have and to hold the same, together with all the rights,
privileges, immunities, and appurtenances of whatsoever nature, thereunto belonging, unto the said William Brown
Guthrie and to his heirs and assigns forever

In testimony whereof, I, Martin Van Buren
President of the United States of America, have caused these Letters to be made Patent, and the
Seal of the General Land Office to be hereunto affixed.

Given under my hand at the City of Washington, the fifteenth day of August
in the Year of our Lord one thousand eight hundred and thirty eight and of the
Independence of the United States the Sixty third

By the President: Martin Van Buren
by M. Van Buren Jr Sec’y
J S Wilson[astrig] Recorder of the General Land Office
ad interim

Source:
United States Bureau of Land Management, “General Land Office Records,” database with images, BLM.Gov (http://glorecords.blm.gov : viewed online July 2019), William Brown Guthrie – S28T3NR9E.

1838 Guthrie Patent

The United States of America
Certificate No 13045
To all to whom these presents shall come, Greeting:
Whereas William Brown Guthrie of Jefferson County
Indiana
has deposited in the General Land Office of the United States a Certificate of the Register of the Land
Office at Jeffersonville whereby it appears that full payment has been made by the said
William Brown Guthrie according to the provisions of
the Act of Congress of the 24th of April 1820, entitled “An Act making further provisions for the sale of the Public Lands,” for
the North West quarter of the South East quarter of 
Section twenty-six in Township four North of range nine
East in the District of Lands subject to sale at Jeffersonville,
Indiana, containing forty acres

according to the official plat of the survey of the said Lands, returned to the General Land Office by the Surveyor
General, which said tract has been purchased by the said William Brown Guthrie
Now Know ye, that the
United States of America, in consideration of the Premises, and in conformity with the several acts of Congress, in
such case made and provided, have given and granted, and by these presents, do give and grant, unto
the said William Brown Guthrie
and to his heirs, the said tract above described: To have and to hold the same, together with all the rights,
privileges, immunities, and appurtenances of whatsoever nature, thereunto belonging, unto the said William
Brown Guthrie and to his heirs and assigns forever
In testimony whereof, I Martin Van Buren
President of the United States of America, have caused these Letters to be made Patent, and the
Seal of the General Land Office to be hereunto affixed.
Given under my hand, at the City of Washington, the fifteenth day of August
in the Year of our Lord one thousand eight hundred and thirty eight and of the
Independence of the United States the sixty third
By the President: Martin Van Buren
A Van Buren, Sec’y
Jos s Wilson acting Recorder of the General Land Office

Source: United States Bureau of Land Management, “General Land Office Records,” database with images, BLM.Gov (http://glorecords.blm.gov : viewed online April 2019), William Brown Guthrie.